Peter Weller: The heart of all this is a morality tale. It’s like Beauty and the Beast, or the Tin Man of The Wizard of Oz. It’s a great little jewel of a human story
RoboCop always had Alex Murphy's signature characteristics and personality, just didn't have his memories. Murphy's personality started to come through in a rapid pace, resurfacing as soon as on the first day of his duty. The first sign appeared even before he went on his first patrol when he was in the shooting gallery. The gun spinning trick
Robocop's way of talking is very official at first ("Thank you for your cooperation. Goodnight", "Madam, you have suffered an emotional shock. I will notify a rape crisis center") but that didn't last long. Murphy's witty personality and one liners started to re-emerge the very same night starting with "Your move creep" after shooting a guy between the legs and that night was the last time we've heard him talking in a very official manner.
The turning point was his "dream", in which he got a first snippet of his memory back and when he started investigating his identity and origins. That's when Murphy's personality and signature characteristics fully emerged. He wasn't using official by-the-books speech anymore, he was using his one liners. "Dead or Alive, you're coming with me". By that point we've already seen RoboCop scared and in pain while experiencing his nightmare.
He was a MAN, only with significant memory loss and enclosed in a metallic body. He had Murphy's personality and acted like human all the time - getting angry, shocked, confused, sad and experiencing pain. He even sleeps like a man, with head down and his mouth open.
It's even more evident when he's visiting his home, regaining small pieces of his memory. Even with the helmet on, we see plenty of emotions in him
Peter Weller: Lost guy trying to find who he was. (...) I simply approached it as a man who had had amnesia (AMC Special)
Nancy Allen: [Peter Weller] brought a soul and a heartbeat to that character. You don't even see his eyes, when you're even looking at him it's just this little visor. You can feel the character through all of that. (AMC Special)
Soon after we see even more of his character, when he grabs a guy in a very painful way - this time, by the hair. "Let's talk"
He also doesn't take crap from anyone and throws the suspect against obstacles, leaving his face badly damaged and cut.
Another cool characteristic of Robocop are his fancy moves during the shootout which make the action that much more engaging and interesting
or when he's shot by ED 209. We also see him scared, surprised and angry, like when Lewis tells him who he is, or when he sees Lewis after getting chased by the SWAT team,
or when he sees his own photo with the "Deceased" written across it and there's many more examples. We see him sad and depressed. We also see him visibly making a physical effort to lift heavy things, like when he's taking the debris off of himself after killing Clarence,
Again, he's a man, just in a cyborg body. When he's pissed, he's pissed and when he's sad, he's sad. When Lewis got shot in RoboCop, he shouted "Lewis!!"on the top of his lungs, with both fear and concern in his voice.
Nancy Allen: That character was not a cartoon, it was a real life human being and [Peter Weller] really made sure that that was not lost (AMC Special)
What changed at the end of the movie is that he got small snippets of his memory back and realized what he is and who he was. There really wasn't any drastic shift in his personality, he was just grieving because of what he had found out. Once the final showdown starts, he's the tough character again with his witty personality. Even though he could just shoot them, he wanted to screw around with Clarence's gang first. First he tosses a piece of debris to startle them, then he says "Looking for me?!" and starts taking them down, starting with Joe
"Murphy had a wife and son what happened to them"
"I can feel them but I cant remember them"
Murphy never fully comes back. He only has flashes of his memory, but he does feel connection to his family and misses them. He does however, have Murphy's signature characteristics and personality.
Murphy really dies, totally flatlines. While it may be true that some of Murphy's memories and personality may resurface through the cyborg's computer programming, Robocop does not restore Murphy's life, nor does it provide him with enough of a semblence of human for him to have any hope of rejoining his wife and son - Cinefantastique ,1987
He also made sure that his most wanted enemy knew that he was going to die: "I'm not arresting you anymore" he says, after which he slowly starts to aim the gun at his future kill
After making sure that Lewis was safe he threw a joke "They'll fix you. They fix everything". That's all Murphy, since we also get to know that outside of his witty tough character and one liners, he was also a jokster "Why won't you drive"?
RoboCop always had Alex Murphy's signature characteristics and personality, just didn't have his memories. Murphy's personality started to come through in a rapid pace, resurfacing as soon as on the first day of his duty. The first sign appeared even before he went on his first patrol when he was in the shooting gallery. The gun spinning trick
Very soon after, there was another one - his inability to properly enter the exit ramp from the Police parking
Robocop's way of talking is very official at first ("Thank you for your cooperation. Goodnight", "Madam, you have suffered an emotional shock. I will notify a rape crisis center") but that didn't last long. Murphy's witty personality and one liners started to re-emerge the very same night starting with "Your move creep" after shooting a guy between the legs and that night was the last time we've heard him talking in a very official manner.
The turning point was his "dream", in which he got a first snippet of his memory back and when he started investigating his identity and origins. That's when Murphy's personality and signature characteristics fully emerged. He wasn't using official by-the-books speech anymore, he was using his one liners. "Dead or Alive, you're coming with me". By that point we've already seen RoboCop scared and in pain while experiencing his nightmare.
Peter Weller: Lost guy trying to find who he was. (...) I simply approached it as a man who had had amnesia (AMC Special)
Nancy Allen: [Peter Weller] brought a soul and a heartbeat to that character. You don't even see his eyes, when you're even looking at him it's just this little visor. You can feel the character through all of that. (AMC Special)
Soon after we see even more of his character, when he grabs a guy in a very painful way - this time, by the hair. "Let's talk"
He also doesn't take crap from anyone and throws the suspect against obstacles, leaving his face badly damaged and cut.
Another cool characteristic of Robocop are his fancy moves during the shootout which make the action that much more engaging and interesting
He is also clearly mad when he responds to Jones' talk with "I will!".
We see Robocop in pain many times, gritting his teeth and twisting when he's fighting the painful program in Jones' office,
or when he's impaled by Clarence,
or when he's shot by ED 209. We also see him scared, surprised and angry, like when Lewis tells him who he is, or when he sees Lewis after getting chased by the SWAT team,
or when he sees his own photo with the "Deceased" written across it and there's many more examples. We see him sad and depressed. We also see him visibly making a physical effort to lift heavy things, like when he's taking the debris off of himself after killing Clarence,
and he can even be seen making some effort while squeezing Boddicker's throat
How does that work within the universe if his body is prosthetic? I don't know, but it makes him real, it makes him relatable. You can relate to a human being encased in iron lung, but you can't with a robotic machine
We also see him visibly exhausted and hurting
Again, he's a man, just in a cyborg body. When he's pissed, he's pissed and when he's sad, he's sad. When Lewis got shot in RoboCop, he shouted "Lewis!!"on the top of his lungs, with both fear and concern in his voice.
Nancy Allen: That character was not a cartoon, it was a real life human being and [Peter Weller] really made sure that that was not lost (AMC Special)
What changed at the end of the movie is that he got small snippets of his memory back and realized what he is and who he was. There really wasn't any drastic shift in his personality, he was just grieving because of what he had found out. Once the final showdown starts, he's the tough character again with his witty personality. Even though he could just shoot them, he wanted to screw around with Clarence's gang first. First he tosses a piece of debris to startle them, then he says "Looking for me?!" and starts taking them down, starting with Joe
"Murphy had a wife and son what happened to them"
"I can feel them but I cant remember them"
Murphy never fully comes back. He only has flashes of his memory, but he does feel connection to his family and misses them. He does however, have Murphy's signature characteristics and personality.
Murphy really dies, totally flatlines. While it may be true that some of Murphy's memories and personality may resurface through the cyborg's computer programming, Robocop does not restore Murphy's life, nor does it provide him with enough of a semblence of human for him to have any hope of rejoining his wife and son - Cinefantastique ,1987
He also made sure that his most wanted enemy knew that he was going to die: "I'm not arresting you anymore" he says, after which he slowly starts to aim the gun at his future kill
After making sure that Lewis was safe he threw a joke "They'll fix you. They fix everything". That's all Murphy, since we also get to know that outside of his witty tough character and one liners, he was also a jokster "Why won't you drive"?
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Irvin Kershner: I wanted the characters to go further than they went the first time. I was working towards an emotional base that would be true to Robo one year later. His synapses are beginning to join up, memory has returned, and he has to deal with the fact that he's a man in an iron suit. He's a man in a no-exit situation (Cinefantastique, 1990)
Some people erroneously assume RoboCop got very mechanical in the second movie which is plainly not true. At the end of the first movie he is soft spoken because his helmet is gone and because he is talking about his family. He's all back to business after that. In the sequel, we get to see Robocop who accepted his fate and carried on after a significant time has passed (the strike we see in the movie is not the continuation of the same one from the first movie. It is said that the police has returned to the picket line, and the Old Man says "about a year ago we gave this city Robocop"). We also get to see the conclusion of his internal struggle when he cuts the ties with his family for their own good, realizing that by not letting go he's only hurting them.
Peter Weller: It's a continuation of a dillema of a guy who's doomed to science. He's reaching out for ways to return to who he was. Except now he's reaching out - he's not just finding out, he's trying to find a way back
[I decided to do the sequel because] I just didn't feel complete about the character.I thought there was something else to say with it (Cinefantastique, 1990)
Murphy-Robocop returns, and so do his signature characteristics. The gun spinning
Peter Weller: It's a continuation of a dillema of a guy who's doomed to science. He's reaching out for ways to return to who he was. Except now he's reaching out - he's not just finding out, he's trying to find a way back
[I decided to do the sequel because] I just didn't feel complete about the character.I thought there was something else to say with it (Cinefantastique, 1990)
Murphy-Robocop returns, and so do his signature characteristics. The gun spinning
grabbing people in a painful way (this time it's by the nose)
and throwing his suspect against obstacles, leaving his face broken and bleeding after he's done with him
And of course, the witty one liners return ("You are a rotten cop!", "As good as money can buy" , "Think it over creep" or "Have a seat" before smashing the guy against the arcade game)
We also get to see his sadness. We see him twice on a verge of crying, with a shaky voice, when he's responding to Holzgang's mental bashing with teary eyes and when he's comforting Hob,
And we also get to see his anger ("I ..will ...kill... you!") and ruthless stubbornness against criminals
And just like before, he makes a visible effort to move something heavy, like when pulling RoboCain off the rooftop
and he's reacting to pain like a human being, gritting teeth and screaming, for example when he's tortured in the factory.
Just as before, Murphy makes sure that his most wanted enemy knows that he's going to die: "You Want Me?- Dead or Alive. -Then one of us must die. -Dead then", after which he slowly aims at his future kill
And lastly, we get to see the last of Murphy's personality traits, which is his humor: "Patience Lewis, we're only human"
Peter Weller made sure that the character is consistent: There are a lot of guidelines to the character. Sometimes Frank [Miller] would have to alter his stuff because he wasn't used to writing the character.(...) So a lot of those things, when I would read them, I'd say 'Frank, this is out of the character'. Instinctively, I knew what was right (Cinefantastique, 1990)
The above quote is extremely confusing since Dekker did the exact opposite. RoboCop 3 introduces major changes. In this movie, all humanity is taken out of the character - throughout the entire movie, there's not one trace of emotions or humanity on his part. His voice is so deep and distorted that he sounds nearly like the ED-209. He never even changes tone and sounds like the text-to-speech reader. He doesn't react at all when getting hurt. He feels no pain. When he gets his fingers and then armed chopped off, he just looks at it , and has the same expression on his face that doesn't change once in the entire movie - a blank expression
Same goes when he gets hit in the grenade, which seems to damage him more than anything else before - zero emotions or expressions. Just a stoic "cover me"
He acts like he's constantly on Valium. Again, remember in RoboCop when he kills Clarence and screams after the hurt Lewis? "Lewis!!" and in RoboCop 3 he never does anything, he just looks at her and then he still shows no emotions at all.
Even when she's shaking and sobbing and saying that she's scared, he still stand there expressionless like a statue
And not to mention his Robot talk - "a vehicle is approaching", "tracking", "Scanning". And he actually responds to a little 9 year old girl's question "How are you feeling" with "My efficiency rate is 93%". It seems like he is unable to have any humane conversations. He's not even looking at her and stares blankly into space like a robot
Even when he pushes heavy things, like when folding the elevator door, he shows no physical effort and - as usual - no expression on his face
He also is unresponsive plenty of times. He doesn't respond to Lewis and Nikko when they're talking to him. He also seems disconnected from the world sometimes. When Marie and Fleck are talking about wiping out his humanity, he just stares blankly into space and seems sleepy. Also his responses sound like the reprogrammed Robocop from the previous movie: "I'm fine Anne, thank you for asking"
Even without the helmet he displays no visible emotions when remembering his death or that Nikko's parents have been killed
Fancy moves during the shootout make their return as well
Just as before, Murphy makes sure that his most wanted enemy knows that he's going to die: "You Want Me?- Dead or Alive. -Then one of us must die. -Dead then", after which he slowly aims at his future kill
And lastly, we get to see the last of Murphy's personality traits, which is his humor: "Patience Lewis, we're only human"
Peter Weller made sure that the character is consistent: There are a lot of guidelines to the character. Sometimes Frank [Miller] would have to alter his stuff because he wasn't used to writing the character.(...) So a lot of those things, when I would read them, I'd say 'Frank, this is out of the character'. Instinctively, I knew what was right (Cinefantastique, 1990)
Irvin Kershner, 1990: I wanted to extend the character, I wanted him to make choices, I wanted him to get back free will (Making Of).
Once free [of his programming] he doesn't walk away from the evil around him, but stays to risk his life to destroy Robo 2. By doing his duty he is giving purpose to his existence (LA Times).
Peter Weller: He's reprogrammed and he becomes almost comical. He becomes kind of sadly impotent. And then he gets his life back and he becomes pretty brutal (Starlog, 1990)
Jon Davison (producer, RoboCop, RoboCop 2): One theme of the first picture that's also in the second is Robo's obsession with his human identity (Starlog, 1990)
Peter Weller: You know, Frank Miller, a great writer, and Irv Kirshner, but, I read the second one and I knew it didn't have a third act. It has a great plot, but it never had a third act, whereas the first one is a great classic because the third act is the thing that makes all great third acts of all great movies, and maybe that's what makes this movie alive to this day (DIFF 2012)
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Fred Dekker: "I loved the first picture, and I thought this was a character who was ripe for exploration. I wanted to pay homage to Verhoeven and get back to the roots of what the character was all about, RoboCop is the ultimate example of the endless conflict of man versus machine, with the added twist that they are both in the same guy." (1993)
Same goes when he gets hit in the grenade, which seems to damage him more than anything else before - zero emotions or expressions. Just a stoic "cover me"
He acts like he's constantly on Valium. Again, remember in RoboCop when he kills Clarence and screams after the hurt Lewis? "Lewis!!" and in RoboCop 3 he never does anything, he just looks at her and then he still shows no emotions at all.
Even when she's shaking and sobbing and saying that she's scared, he still stand there expressionless like a statue
And not to mention his Robot talk - "a vehicle is approaching", "tracking", "Scanning". And he actually responds to a little 9 year old girl's question "How are you feeling" with "My efficiency rate is 93%". It seems like he is unable to have any humane conversations. He's not even looking at her and stares blankly into space like a robot
There is NO gun spinning
There is NO grabbing and hurting the suspects, or throwing them against something
There is NO witty humor or one liners, replaced with lines like "Maybe you have a hearing problem"
There is NO humor on his part - he actually doesn't even recognize jokes, and responds to them literally; Marie (joking): "It looks like you've become friends with a Mac Truck", Robocop: "I don't have many...friends"
There is NO humanity, NO Murphy, NO pain and NO personality on his part. When he gets his arm cut off, he even says "Detroit Police, identify yourself (...) You under arrest for destroying Police property". Robocop is back with his official robotic talk. Can you imagine him saying that to Clarence Boddicker after he drives a steel bar through him?
There's plenty more like "Good evening Sgt. Reed. Please direct me to the Rehab staging area. Thank you."
There is NO fancy choreography either. When he enters the Rehab station he only...burns the walls while only walking in a straight line. He never even hurts his suspect but uses force of the explosion to put him down and grabs him by his clothes.
Even when he pushes heavy things, like when folding the elevator door, he shows no physical effort and - as usual - no expression on his face
He also is unresponsive plenty of times. He doesn't respond to Lewis and Nikko when they're talking to him. He also seems disconnected from the world sometimes. When Marie and Fleck are talking about wiping out his humanity, he just stares blankly into space and seems sleepy. Also his responses sound like the reprogrammed Robocop from the previous movie: "I'm fine Anne, thank you for asking"
Even without the helmet he displays no visible emotions when remembering his death or that Nikko's parents have been killed
Ed Neumeier (co-writer Robocop): I think the more weaponry you gave Robocop the worse it got, and the less interesting he was. I think. If you look at the Leone westerns later on it's all about the decision of a gun, and I think that there's something to be said about with Robocop. I think that he kind of is this notion of, when he shows up, and the gun comes out, it's the same sequence, he's a gun slinger, and he's here to clean up the town
Robocop is a gun fighter, so Robocop should not have a machinegun arm, and Robocop should not be in a jetpack, I mean, this is boy stuff, sorry. But I thought about this things probably too much for my own good as a middle age man, but no, the jet pack ruins him (via RobocopArchive 2013)
Nancy Allen: It was kind of half baked in my opinion, but I tried to do the best that I could (...) They tried to make this mainstream, you know, PG-13, and that was not the sensibility, you know, I mean Robocop was a really gritty, political, reverend stark piece, and the minute you start turning it into a kind of a fairy tale it just doesn't work (via robocoparchive 2013)
Jon Davison (RoboCop & RoboCop 2 producer): I didn't want to do the picture without Weller, which was something suggested by the studio - "the hell with it, it's like the Mummy, just put anybody under the bandages.". I thought that was probably not a good idea (...) I think some of Weller's best performing is done under that rubber suit. He really has it down. (...) You can tell when Boris Karloff was playing the Mummy and when Tom Tyler was doing it. (Cinefantastique, 1990)
Robocop is a gun fighter, so Robocop should not have a machinegun arm, and Robocop should not be in a jetpack, I mean, this is boy stuff, sorry. But I thought about this things probably too much for my own good as a middle age man, but no, the jet pack ruins him (via RobocopArchive 2013)
Nancy Allen: It was kind of half baked in my opinion, but I tried to do the best that I could (...) They tried to make this mainstream, you know, PG-13, and that was not the sensibility, you know, I mean Robocop was a really gritty, political, reverend stark piece, and the minute you start turning it into a kind of a fairy tale it just doesn't work (via robocoparchive 2013)
Jon Davison (RoboCop & RoboCop 2 producer): I didn't want to do the picture without Weller, which was something suggested by the studio - "the hell with it, it's like the Mummy, just put anybody under the bandages.". I thought that was probably not a good idea (...) I think some of Weller's best performing is done under that rubber suit. He really has it down. (...) You can tell when Boris Karloff was playing the Mummy and when Tom Tyler was doing it. (Cinefantastique, 1990)
Fantastic article
ReplyDeleteI guess Dekker thought that Robocop as a toy is more appealing to kids
ReplyDelete"There is NO humanity, NO Murphy, NO pain and NO personality on his part. When he gets his arm cut off, he even says "Detroit Police, identify yourself (...) You under arrest for destroying Police property". Robocop is back with his official robotic talk. There's plenty more like "Good evening Sgt. Reed. Please direct me to the Rehab staging area. Thank you.""
ReplyDelete- You forgot to mention this. Before entering the area Robo says to Reed: "You may wanna call the fire department"
Robocop 3 might've worked (somewhat) if the previous movies didn't exist...
ReplyDeleteWeller, Verhoeven and the rest of the crew managed to set the bar too high however, having created something which is outright cooler than most modern movies, even now, in 2013.
The first RoboCop is a classic. The second one was okay but it could have been better. The less said about the third, THE BETTER!
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